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Dr 0wnage
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.03.14 10:40:00 -
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First off... ITS ABOUT TIME!
Secondly... its not quite right...
Tracking changes are exactly what we need. The scan res and locked target changes however are not needed. A tracking penalty alone will prevent titans from effectively engaging sub cap fleets. The changes to their scan res will only hinder them in their anti-capital role.
My suggestions are as follows...
1. Nerf XL tracking a bit more. Reason being is that a tracking moros hits BS with relative ease currently (same tracking titans will have with this change). As you said, we have to assume faction / officer tracking computers will be used if it means they'll hit BS / BC.
2. Increase Titan damage bonus (up to 200% at least). As it is currently, titans can be out damaged by dreads. If there role is an anti-capital one, then they need the best at it.
3. Give the dread siege module a tracking bonus. If dreads can fill the role that people were using titans for before (killing BS and BC), then we have a perfect formula for capital escalation. subs < dreads < supers < subs |
Dr 0wnage
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.03.16 12:26:00 -
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OK, i seriously just spent the past few hours reading through every page of this post. Granted i skimmed a good portion of it or i think id still be somewhere on page 40... anyway all i see are bitching and whining from both sides of this argument and only a handful of actual real constructive posts. I think Shadoo of all damn people has contributed the most to this thread...
SO EVERYBODY, stop a minute and take a look at the situation that has caused this issue. Quite simply its the imbalance between titans and subcaps. Well, i have news that everyone doesn't seem to know... YOU CAN'T BALANCE A 90B ISK SHIP AGAINST A 60M OR 200M ISK SHIP! You just can't do it, it doesn't work! Havn't we figured that out by now?? Titans will NEVER be balanced against battleships!!
The problem is not the titans, its the broken capital ships that are supposed to fill the gap between them and the subs. The food chain that exists in EVE works well all the way up until you hit capital ships. Carriers and Dreads are very simply ineffective against sub-capital fleets. THIS is where the imbalance is! You don't have to be a damn rocket scientist to see it! We admit there's a problem but we don't want to change our current paradigm to fix it.
Lets, just for the sake of argument, say we move dreads and carriers into the anti-sub role. If they can effectively kill supcap fleets then what is their counter? Well supers of course as they can effectively kill cap fleets. But what can kill the super fleet? After some of these changes in the OP, a sub fleet! Rock, Paper, Siscors! ie. balance!!!
There are probably 100 ways to go about this but consider this solution:
Offensive and Defensive scripts for Siege and Triage modules (only changeable while not active)
Offensive Siege script +50% tracking, +50% falloff Defensive Siege script +25% to all resist? Offensive Triage script +100% to fighter dmg (allows drones to be launched) Defensive Triage script + some bonus i can't think of right now
Obviously im focusing on the offensive potential of these scripts to prove a point which is how we can very easily make these ships quite formidable against a sub-cap only fleet. With each ship type having a defined role and counter we will inevitably see more well rounded fleets being fielded.
/me is done beating the dead horse for now... -Doc |
Dr 0wnage
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.03.17 11:17:00 -
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Actually, this is how it should work...
killed (144.04B ISK) lost (75.38B ISK)
When you bring capitals to fight anti-capital ships, shouldn't they die? |
Dr 0wnage
The Dark Tribe Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.03.20 13:16:00 -
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Hey Greyscale,
Is there any way to have a thread where goons / PL / Raiden / NC. and NPC alts can't post? It would make discussing this topic much more constructive
But anyway, assuming you've sifted your way through the spam of the before mentioned parties, have you come up with anything more then the "i promise we'll fix it eventually" position that your currently sticking to? Any possibilities, ideas, anything?
Hell, if nothing else, give us some "options" on duality to test out. PLEASE! |
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